1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 This program is about unsolved mysteries. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,800 Whenever possible, the actual family members and police 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,800 officials have participated in recreating the events. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 What you are about to see is not a news broadcast. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,500 In 1935, legendary gangster Dutch Schultz was ambushed by an 6 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:24,500 underworld rival in a tavern in New Jersey. 7 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:27,200 On his deathbed, Schultz reportedly ran into a 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:31,200 incoherently about his mother, his enemies, and his ill-gotten 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,200 $7 million fortune buried in rural upstate New York. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,200 But when Dutch died, he took the secret of his alleged lost 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,200 treasure with him to the grave. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,200 When five-year-old Lauren Jackson disappeared, an eyewitness 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,200 account led police to believe she'd been abducted by a stranger. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,200 Then a few months later, another witness came forward 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,200 with a stunning accusation. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Lauren's own deathbed was a murder. 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Lauren's own mother may have been involved in the kidnapping. 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Beware of the classifiers. 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,200 In September of 1992, a man calling himself Tom Johnson 20 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,200 answered an ad for a computer system. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,200 But Johnson had no intention of paying for his purchase. 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Instead, he had hatched a congame, deadly proportion. 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Just outside Dallas, Texas, a young boy and his mother were 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,200 murdered by a ruthless, unknown assailant. 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,200 This hope one of our viewers will recognize several items left 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,200 behind by the killer. 27 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Crucial evidence that may lead to the suspect's identity and capture. 28 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Join me. 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Perhaps you hold the one vital clue that will help 30 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,200 solve one of tonight's unsolved mysteries. 31 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:29,200 The Man Doing All the Ways 32 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 On a cool, moonless night some 60 years ago, 33 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,200 two shadowy figures dug along the banks of Ysopas Creek, 34 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,200 100 miles north of New York City. 35 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,200 All right, Lou, Lou, that's enough. 36 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,200 The Man Doing All the Work was Bernard Rosencrantz, 37 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,200 nicknamed oddly enough, Lulu. 38 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,200 His boss was the infamous Dutch Schultz, 39 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,200 king of the New York underworld. 40 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,200 According to legend, Dutch buried a strongbox that night 41 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,200 containing a king's ransom of cash, bonds, 42 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,200 unset diamonds, and gold coins. 43 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Today it would be worth more than $50 million. 44 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,200 That is, of course, if it ever existed. 45 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Like most tales of buried treasure, 46 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 this one comes with a familiar wet blanket disclaimer. 47 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,200 But let's face it, we love these tales. 48 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,200 Perhaps because he often spring up around society's villains, 49 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:42,200 its pirates, thieves, and gangsters, men just like Dutch Schultz. 50 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,200 The legend of his lost treasure is rooted smack in the middle 51 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,200 of one of America's most colorful periods, the Roaring Twenties. 52 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,200 The decade came by his nickname honestly. 53 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Prohibition was passed in 1919. 54 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,200 The criminal element was in its element. 55 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Bootleg liquor became an art form, 56 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 whose manufacture and distribution made millions 57 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 for ruthless gangsters like Legs Diamond, 58 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Lucky Luchon, Al Capone, and Dutch Schultz. 59 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,200 Dutch Schultz was something of a criminal prodigy. 60 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Born Arthur Flegenheimer in 1902, 61 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,200 he was already a force to be reckoned with by the time he was 25. 62 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,200 He adopted his name from a notorious gang lord 63 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,200 who had flourished in another era. 64 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Dutch Schultz was a very successful and widespread bootleger, 65 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,200 owned a string of speakeasies, 66 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 and then quickly branched out into narcotics. 67 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,200 The numbers racket and the protection racket. 68 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Schultz was an extremely dangerous gangster. 69 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:55,200 He was reported to have had 136 people killed, 70 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,200 and that's over a criminal career of less than 10 years. 71 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,200 As the Roaring Twenties came to a close, 72 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Dutch Schultz's criminal empire was netting 73 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,200 more than $20 million a year. 74 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,200 In 1933, Dutch earned a dubious distinction 75 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,200 He was named public enemy number one by the Justice Department. 76 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Like Al Capone before him, 77 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Schultz was highly vulnerable to the newly enacted 78 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,200 federal income tax laws. 79 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,200 When he was indicted by a grand jury for income tax evasion, 80 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,200 he did what gangsters do. 81 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,200 He went on the land. 82 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,200 At the time, Dutch Schultz was facing long prison sentence, 83 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,200 and he decided that he needed a new law. 84 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,200 He needed a nest egg to fall back on in case he was sent to prison. 85 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:51,200 So he had his top lieutenants clean out of safety deposit boxes 86 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,200 and gather together whatever cash they could 87 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,200 from his available bank accounts. 88 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Beautiful. Looks good, boss. 89 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,200 At a hideaway in Bridgeport, Connecticut, 90 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Dutch and his henchmen, including Lulu Rosengrans 91 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 and a man named Marty Crompier rendezvoused. 92 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,200 According to Gangland legend, 93 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,200 they stacked bundles of $1,000 bills in negotiable liberty bonds 94 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,200 together with a trove of gold coins, unmounted diamonds 95 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,200 and other gems into a steel-plated strongbox. 96 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 Hey, Marty, I'll get me something to drink. 97 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,200 Dutch Schultz had the only key. 98 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 That very night, Dutch and the faithful Lulu 99 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,200 made their fabled nocturnal journey 100 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,200 across the Hudson River towards Phoenicia, New York, 101 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,200 a tiny hamlet Dutch knew well from his bootlegging days. 102 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Dutch swore Lulu to secrecy, 103 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,200 then allegedly marked the site by carving an X 104 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,200 into the trunk of a nearby tree. 105 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,200 But Lulu couldn't keep his mouth shut. 106 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,200 He wasted no time in spilling the beans to his crony, Marty Crompier. 107 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,200 I shouldn't tell you this, 108 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,200 but I think it'd be good for somebody else to know. 109 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,200 Know what? 110 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,200 Remember that strongbox that me and Dutch buried upstate a few weeks ago? 111 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Yeah. What about it? 112 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Well, I'm gonna tell you where we buried it. 113 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Some say Lulu even drew Marty a map. 114 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,200 I ain't got to worry about you doing anything stupid, do I? 115 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,200 Me and the Dutchman were like this, and he's gonna take care of me. 116 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Dutch. 117 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,200 As it turned out, Marty was none too good at keeping his mouth shut either. 118 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,200 And just where is this nest egg? 119 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Lulu drew me this map, and I got it right here in my wallet. 120 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,200 Listen, Marty. 121 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Rumors of Dutch's secret treasure filtered through New York, 122 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,200 but he had other troubles to contend with. 123 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Specifically, Manhattan's crambusting, 124 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,200 disfigged attorney, Thomas E. Dewey. 125 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,200 That's the record of the present state. 126 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Dewey would later become famous for almost, 127 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,200 but not quite beating out Harry S. Truman 128 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,200 in the 1948 presidential elections. 129 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,200 But in 1934, he was determined to make a career 130 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,200 out of squashing Dutch Schultz and his illegal empire. 131 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,200 With a pressure building, Schultz finally surrendered 132 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 to authorities in Albany, New York. 133 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 His first trial resulted in a hung jury. 134 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,200 At his second trial, he was acquitted of all charges 135 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,200 for lack of evidence. 136 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,200 By Dutch's design, both trials had taken place in upstate New York, 137 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,200 where he could jury tampering peace far from Thomas E. Dewey. 138 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,200 After the acquittal, Dutch Schultz moved his headquarters 139 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 to New Jersey, specifically to the palace chop house, 140 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,200 a tavern he owned in Newark. 141 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,200 Determined to regain control of his empire, 142 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,200 Dutch went on a bloody killing spree, 143 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,200 thereby alienating the powerful New York crime syndicate. 144 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,200 The syndicate was a confederation of New York City mobsters 145 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,200 who controlled virtually all the crime in the Manhattan area. 146 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,200 And they were very afraid that he was bringing additional heat 147 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 upon them with these killings. 148 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,200 The heat came in the former Schultz's old nemesis, 149 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Thomas E. Dewey. 150 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,200 Finally, Dutch decided to get rid of Dewey. 151 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,200 Hey, let me tell you something. 152 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,200 Dewey's just another politician, 153 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,200 and I never met a politician who couldn't be bought. 154 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,200 I don't think you can buy off Dewey. 155 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,200 Well, if I can't buy him off, then we'll just have to bump him off. 156 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,200 What are you, crazy? You can't bump off Dewey. 157 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,200 He's right, boss. 158 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Hey, nobody asked you your opinion, LaLusso, shut up. 159 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,200 In the back room of the palace chop house, 160 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Dutch's trusted lieutenants tried to talk him out of it. 161 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,200 Arthur, you can't go around saying you're going to bump off Dewey. 162 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,200 Maybe you're right. 163 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,200 I'm just going to go, uh, splash some water on my face. 164 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,200 Dutch Schultz headed for the men's room. 165 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,200 Perhaps he would have listened to reason when he returned, 166 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,200 but it was too late. 167 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,200 The syndicate had already taken matters into its own hands. 168 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,200 A date was October 23rd, 1935. 169 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,200 Well, they took Schultz to the hospital, 170 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,200 and he lingered on until the next evening, 171 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,200 and all the time issuing a delirium series of statements. 172 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,200 How many shots were fired at me? 173 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,200 The police actually had a court, uh, stenographer in the room with him, 174 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,200 taking down everything he said, 175 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,200 most of which was unintelligible. 176 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Kindly take my shoes off. 177 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 I'm not going to take them off. 178 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,200 I'm not going to take them off. 179 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,200 It's unintelligible. 180 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,200 Kindly take my shoes off. 181 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,200 They're still on. 182 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 They feel like handcuffs. 183 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,200 I wonder who owns these woods. 184 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Dutch hung on for nearly 22 hours. 185 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,200 Once he allegedly begged to be taken to Phoenicia, 186 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,200 where the strongbox was buried. 187 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,200 To the police, it was only the babbling of a dying man. 188 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,200 Come and get me if he says anything useful. 189 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,200 Dutch Schultz finally died at 8.35 p.m. 190 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,200 on October 24, 1935. 191 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,200 He was 33 years old. 192 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,200 His trusted bodyguard, Lulu Rosenkranz, 193 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,200 had died hours earlier. 194 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,200 That left only one man who knew where the treasure was buried, 195 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Marty Krompier. 196 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,200 Too late, Marty learned that the blondie at Blab 2 197 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,200 was friends with Jake Shapiro, 198 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,200 a mobster who had a few henchmen of his own. 199 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,200 I don't believe you. Let me see it. 200 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,200 The night of the chop house murders, 201 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,200 the two henchmen caught up with Marty 202 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,200 at a barber shop in New York City, 203 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,200 gunned him down and took the map. 204 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200 Krompier survived the attack, 205 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,200 but he was never able to locate the treasure without the map. 206 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,200 Jake Shapiro made several attempts 207 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,200 at finding the treasure from the map, 208 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,200 as did several other gangsters of the Europe. 209 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,200 None were successful. 210 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 I think buried treasure is always fascinating, 211 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,200 and certainly when you add the element of the gangsters to it, 212 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,200 it becomes even more of a popular story. 213 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,200 Because we're interested in the gangsters, 214 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,200 because they represent, unfortunately, 215 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,200 a flamboyant side of our society, 216 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,200 which, although evil, can be compelling to people. 217 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,200 If people knew about it, 218 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,200 Schultz is as close as associates. 219 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,200 They told other people, 220 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,200 I would suspect strongly that it had been retrieved long before now. 221 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,200 I personally believe the treasure of Dutch Schultz was buried, 222 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,200 and there's a good possibility that it still exists today. 223 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,200 Because even though the Liberty Bonds have long since matured 224 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,200 in the last 60-plus years, none have ever been redeemed. 225 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,200 Did Dutch Schultz leave an ill-gotten fortune 226 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,200 buried along the banks of the soapless creek in upstate New York? 227 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Those who believe, say, that someday, some way, 228 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,200 someone will stumble across a tree, 229 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,200 scarred with an axe, and hit the jackpot. 230 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,200 Next, a classified ad leads two innocent people into a deadly trap. 231 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,200 In today's high-tech marketplace, 232 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,200 more and more people are using the classifies to buy and sell computers. 233 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,200 In September of 1992, 234 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:52,200 a music video company in Nashville ran these notices in the local trade publication, 235 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,200 hoping to sell a top-of-the-line computer system 236 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,200 valued at more than $30,000. 237 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,200 At the time, it seemed inconceivable that the ads would lead to murder. 238 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,200 OK, if you've got a couple minutes, 239 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,200 I'd like to ask you some specific questions about it, 240 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,200 because I'm really interested in... 241 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,200 On October 7, 1992, a man calling himself Tom Johnson 242 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,200 answered the ads. 243 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,200 He said he was a freelance computer programmer 244 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,200 and database consultant. 245 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:23,200 A few days later, Johnson met with a videotape editor 246 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,200 named Jeremy for a demonstration. 247 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,200 I'm mainly concerned about the ads. 248 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,200 I'm concerned about the ads. 249 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,200 The two men eventually agreed on a price of $31,000. 250 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Johnson requested that the computer system be delivered 251 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,200 to his office in Marietta, Georgia, several hundred miles from Nashville. 252 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,200 October 24, 1992, 1.30 a.m. 253 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,200 Jeremy and his fiance, Heather Offleman, 254 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,200 set off on a five-hour trek to deliver the computer to Tom Johnson. 255 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 He said he was a freelance computer programmer 256 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,200 and a freelance computer programmer. 257 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,200 I'd been working for about 30 hours on another project 258 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,200 and was completely exhausted. 259 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 And I said, well, I don't know if I'm going to be able to find anybody, 260 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,200 except Heather at this point, and I'd like to take her along anyway, 261 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,200 because, you know, we enjoy taking trips together. 262 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 7.30 a.m., after driving all night, 263 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Jeremy and Heather arrived at the station. 264 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,200 They were all in the car. 265 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,200 After driving all night, Jeremy and Heather arrived 266 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 at Tom Johnson's motel in Marietta. 267 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Originally, we had been set to meet in an industrial park, 268 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,200 but he said that the directions to the industrial park were so complex 269 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,200 that he would prefer to meet us first at his motel, 270 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,200 which made perfect sense to me, because I've spent a lot of time 271 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,200 lost in industrial parks trying to find an unposted address somewhere. 272 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,200 Come on in. 273 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Tom, hi. How you doing? 274 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,200 This is my fiance, Heather. 275 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,200 We arrived a little early, I think. 276 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,200 But he said that his business partner would be along shortly, 277 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,200 and he was bringing the certified check. 278 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 He's going to bring it here, and he should be here about half an hour, 45 minutes. 279 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200 I suggested that we go and get breakfast if we had to wait for a while, 280 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200 because Heather and I were really hungry. 281 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 So we left, and when we came back maybe half an hour later, 282 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,200 he said that his business manager had called and was on the way, 283 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,200 and would be there shortly. 284 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,200 Yeah, I think it'll really save some time 285 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,200 if we just transfer it between your car. 286 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Where's he coming from, you know? 287 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,200 8 a.m. Johnson suggested that Jeremy and Heather load the computer into his car 288 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,200 while they waited for Johnson's partner to arrive with the check. 289 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,200 We so trusted this guy, it didn't strike me as being odd. 290 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,200 There were absolutely no clues that this guy was anything but what he said he was. 291 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,200 He was very good at making people believe that he was legitimate. 292 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,200 Think about how computer technologies influenced every aspect of our society. 293 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:55,200 The three returned to Johnson's motel room and made small talk for 20 minutes. 294 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,200 Finally Jeremy grew tired of waiting. 295 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,200 Tom, I've been up about 30 hours. 296 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,200 If you knew where your president was, we could close this deal. 297 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,200 I think we can close this deal right now. 298 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Are you kidding me? 299 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,200 No, I'm not kidding. 300 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,200 Put your money belt over there and get down on your knees. 301 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,200 You, stand up. 302 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,200 Take the sheet off that bed and lay it down here on the floor. 303 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,200 Hurry up. 304 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,200 Put the sheet down here. 305 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Lay it on the ground. 306 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,200 Why are you doing this Tom? Why'd you lie? 307 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Shut up. 308 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Lay down. 309 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,200 The person we've been talking to before was this kind of thoughtful, introspective guy 310 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:33,200 interested in computers and then this person who was pointing the gun was cold and calculating 311 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,200 and deliberate. 312 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,200 He knew exactly what he wanted to do. 313 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Now lay down in it. 314 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Roll yourself up in it. 315 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Your company's going to get an insurance check and I'm going to get the computer and everybody's going to be fine. 316 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Look away. 317 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,200 Don't look at her. 318 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:54,200 And so I turned my head away from him and then a second later I hear a sharp buzzing in my ear, 319 00:17:54,200 --> 00:18:00,200 almost like a siren and the whole room spins because he's struck me in the back of the head 320 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:08,200 and then he moved over to Heather and I saw him raise his hand up and bring it down and when he did, 321 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Heather screamed this horrible screaming so he kept hitting her. 322 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,200 Stop screaming and he'll leave. 323 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:25,200 So he came back over and hit me more and then went back over and hit her more and then as he backed out of the room, 324 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,200 still pointing the gun at us, he dusted the countertop for fingerprints as he walked out of the room. 325 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,200 And as soon as he left I crawled over to Heather and I told her that I was going to get help and that we were going to be okay. 326 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,200 And what I saw haunts me. 327 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,200 You know, I can't get the picture out of my head. 328 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:50,200 I mean that someone could so hurt such a gentle person. 329 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Heather and Jeremy were rushed to a nearby hospital. 330 00:18:56,200 --> 00:19:01,200 Two hours later, Heather Ruffleman died of massive skull injuries. 331 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,200 I went right over to him and I called him. 332 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Meanwhile, the authorities questioned witnesses and searched the motel room for evidence. 333 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,200 Among the few clues that Johnson left behind was the murder weapon. 334 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,200 The hammer was still wrapped in plastic. 335 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:25,200 I still had the card identifying its weight, its skew number. 336 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,200 But we have not been able to trace exactly which store it was purchased from. 337 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:40,200 This is a very unusual robbery and the fact that he would allow himself to be seen in public in daylight. 338 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,200 It's unusual that he had a handgun, especially a small caliber handgun. 339 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,200 I didn't use this handgun to kill the victims. 340 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Police learned of yet another curious circumstance that occurred approximately an hour before the attack. 341 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Yes, ma'am, may I help you? 342 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Yes, I'd like to report a disturbance down in room 332. 343 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,200 An unknown woman complained of a problem in the motel room rented to Tom Johnson. 344 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,200 At that time, Jeremy and Heather had gone out for breakfast. 345 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,200 No, there's a lot of noise going on. 346 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:20,200 Well, ma'am, it sounds like a domestic dispute. We're trying not to get involved in that. 347 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:26,200 Investigators now believe that the woman may have been an accomplice of Johnson's who attempted to sabotage the scheme 348 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,200 when she learned that he intended to murder his victims. 349 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200 I wouldn't have come down here if I didn't think this was urgent. 350 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,200 If we could locate the mystery woman that entered into the motel that morning, 351 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200 maybe she could give us further information or anybody at the motel, 352 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,200 if they would come forward and give us any further information on the vehicle, 353 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,200 or this suspect called Tom Johnson, 354 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,200 or if anybody has any information on the computer, it's whereabouts. 355 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:56,200 The vehicle that Tom Johnson was driving was a Dodge Dynasty black cherry color 356 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,200 with a red interior and Tennessee license plates. 357 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Tom Johnson is in his late 20s or early 30s, approximately six feet tall and weighing 165 pounds. 358 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,200 He has sandy brown hair and may be wearing glasses. 359 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,200 His last scene wearing an expensive pair of boots may have either snake or alligator skin. 360 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,200 Tom Johnson is a riddle. 361 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,200 He had a smile and a way of talking to you that made you feel very much at ease. 362 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Tom Johnson could be someone's coworker. 363 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,200 He could be someone's, you know, acquaintance, 364 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:37,200 and they would have no clue that this other side is there at all until it was too late. 365 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,200 This is the same computer model, the man calling himself Tom Johnson's told from Jeremy. 366 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,200 It is a Macintosh Quadra 950 used for desktop publishing or videotape editing. 367 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,200 Perhaps someone in our audience purchased the unit from Tom Johnson. 368 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,200 At this point the police have evidence that Johnson tried to pull a similar scam 369 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200 just one week before he murdered Heather Uffleman, 370 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,200 but for some unknown reason, Johnson never showed up for the appointment. 371 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:13,200 When we return, after a five-year-old girl disappears, 372 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,200 her grieving mother finds herself a suspect. 373 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,200 On a chilly October evening in 1988, 374 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,200 200 rescue workers and volunteers 375 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,200 swarmed into the tiny township of East Vincent, Pennsylvania. 376 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,200 At a moment's notice, they had put their lives on hold to launch a search for one of their own. 377 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,200 A five-year-old girl named Lauren Jackson was missing. 378 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,200 At the time I was in shock, 379 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:57,200 and I really didn't realize because I always thought she's right here. 380 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,200 She'll come up, you know, she'll come home mommy. 381 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,200 And this is all for naught. 382 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:11,200 But when daylight came, she wasn't home. 383 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,200 Lauren Jackson has been missing for more than five years. 384 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,200 In a case like this, anyone and everyone becomes a suspect. 385 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,200 Since Lauren vanished, her case has taken a number of bizarre turns. 386 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,200 And when all is said and done, 387 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:32,200 many people believe the prime suspect is a member of Lauren's family, her own mother. 388 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,200 Lauren's parents, Christina O'Donnell and Mickey Jackson, were never married. 389 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,200 They split in 1987 when Lauren was four years old. 390 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,200 Lauren lived with her mother. 391 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,200 But in September of 1988, Christina was arrested 392 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,200 for attempting to illegally obtain prescription drugs. 393 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,200 Soon after, Mickey told Lauren he planned to file for custody of her. 394 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,200 A month later, on October 4, 1988, 395 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Christina took Lauren and her other daughter out for dinner. 396 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,200 The day had been so normal, it was almost mundane. 397 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,200 But within two hours, Lauren Jackson would be gone. 398 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,200 I remember all day asking me for a cheeseburger. 399 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,200 And I finally gave in and took her down, got her a cheeseburger. 400 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,200 And we ate and I let her go out and play with Brian to dig in the dirt, 401 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,200 because she loved to do that. 402 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,200 Brian was a six-year-old boy who lived three doors down from Lauren and Christina 403 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,200 in the Park Springs apartment complex. 404 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,200 I was outside sweeping, watching her. 405 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200 And I walked in. 406 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,200 And I put the broom in the house and cleaned up my kitchen counter. 407 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,200 And someone else, she was gone. 408 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Lauren! 409 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Christina says a 20 minutes had elapsed. 410 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Lauren! 411 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,200 She immediately went to Brian's apartment. 412 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,200 According to Christina, no one was home. 413 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,200 I found out later that his mom had went to the mall. 414 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,200 And they left Lauren outside. 415 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,200 But she wasn't out there when I went out. 416 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,200 When I showed up at Park Springs that night and got out of the car, 417 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,200 there was people mobilizing and fire engine trucks. 418 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,200 And just a whole lot of pretty hectic. 419 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,200 I was hoping for the best at the time. 420 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,200 You were kind of overwhelmed by everything. 421 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,200 You couldn't believe it was happening to you. 422 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,200 What is all this? 423 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,200 There are a lot of people out here looking for Lauren. 424 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,200 At the time Lauren disappeared, Jim Cody was East Vincent's police chief. 425 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,200 I had probably 250 people out going through weeds and bushes 426 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,200 coming in the area looking for the child. 427 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Rescue units from the surrounding area. 428 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,200 I cleared 19 ponds in two days. 429 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,200 By the next morning, the police using blood hounds on a professional tracker 430 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,200 uncovered evidence that Lauren had either wandered or been dragged towards Route 724, 431 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,200 a quarter of a mile from her home. 432 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,200 When an 11-year-old girl came forward with an eyewitness account, 433 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,200 everyone's worst fears seemed to be confirmed. 434 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:49,200 The girl was certain that the child she saw was Lauren. 435 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,200 But the investigation soon stalled for lack of further evidence. 436 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,200 Then a few months later, another witness came forward with stunning new information 437 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,200 that pointed the finger of suspicion directly at Lauren's mother, Christina. 438 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,200 A witness told us that Lauren was not kidnapped 439 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:15,200 and that she saw Christina give Lauren away to a couple 440 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,200 in the James Way Mall on October 4th of 1988. 441 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,200 According to the witness, at around 7 p.m. she was in the mall parking lot 442 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200 when she heard a child yelling. 443 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Please come and get over here. No! No! No! No! 444 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:39,200 The witness reported seeing a woman, possibly the child's mother, 445 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,200 hand the young girl to a couple in a parked car. 446 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,200 The day after the witness came forward, police chief Jim Cody 447 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,200 showed up unannounced at Christina's apartment. 448 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,200 I stopped by for the recent photo that I asked you about from Lauren. 449 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,200 From across the street, the witness and FBI agents were watching. 450 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,200 That's the woman. That's the woman I saw. 451 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:18,200 She observed Christina and told us that she was 100% positive 452 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:25,200 that that was the same woman that she saw give Lauren away on October 4th of 1988. 453 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200 My whole thought is she saw my picture in the paper. 454 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Either maybe she mistake me for somebody else. 455 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Maybe she just is one of those kind of people that like to go to the police 456 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,200 or the FBI. There are people like that. Why I don't know. 457 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Christina O'Donnell staunchly maintains that she had nothing to do 458 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,200 with her daughter's disappearance and poised to a major discrepancy 459 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,200 in the witness's story. 460 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,200 It's so hard to believe. 461 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,200 The witness placed Lauren and Christina in the parking lot at 7pm. 462 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200 However, residents of Christina's apartment complex 463 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,200 clearly recall seeing Lauren playing in her front yard as late as 7.15. 464 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,200 I don't doubt that she may have seen a child and a mother in the mall. 465 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,200 The current East Vincent police chief, Bill Demski, 466 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,200 believes the witness was mistaken. 467 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,200 She's quite sure at a time she was there. 468 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,200 There's other people that live in the complex where Lauren disappeared from 469 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,200 that are quite sure at a times that Lauren was still in the complex. 470 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,200 Mickey Jackson is convinced that Christina was involved. 471 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 I bet my life on it that she did it. 472 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:45,200 And I feel certain that it's because the two reasons tied together. 473 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200 Number one, despite me, and number two, 474 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200 she's just overwhelmed with responsibility raising a child. 475 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Everyone was a suspect in the beginning. 476 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,200 Mickey Jackson was a suspect. 477 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,200 He can probably relate the phone conversation I had with him 478 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200 at the night of the disappearance. 479 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,200 I wasn't too happy with that. 480 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200 It took offense at being an initial suspect. 481 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 There are other suspects along the route of that long 482 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200 and tedious investigatory process. 483 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,200 And you work through them. 484 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,200 Christina O'Donnell, given this scenario, would be a suspect. 485 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200 Ultimately, a grand jury in East Vincent was asked to consider 486 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,200 whether Christina O'Donnell should be charged in connection 487 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200 with the disappearance of her daughter. 488 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,200 After four months, the grand jury declined to take action. 489 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Today, there is only one absolute fact in this troubling case. 490 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,200 Lauren Jackson has not been seen since the day she disappeared 491 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200 more than five years ago. 492 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200 There's got to be a trail somewhere. 493 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:52,200 Just that we were so far behind it that we're here, 494 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,200 and the trail's there. 495 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200 We need somebody to put us on the trail. 496 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,200 A lot of times I give up hope, 497 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:06,200 but there's always just that glimmer that I'll see her again. 498 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:23,200 Next, authorities in Dallas, Texas need your help 499 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,200 to solve a brutal double murder. 500 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Just a few days before Christmas in 1981, 501 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,200 the Dallas County, Texas Sheriff's Department 502 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,200 was preparing for their annual holiday lunch. 503 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200 I'd like to get back on the streets. 504 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,200 It was a Wednesday, December 23, 505 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,200 a day that no one in the department will ever forget. 506 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,200 At about 11.45 a.m., Officer Roy Baird was still on duty, 507 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200 patrolling an area 10 miles outside Dallas. 508 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,200 His attention was drawn to a car parked on the wrong side 509 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,200 of a dirt road with one door hanging open. 510 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,200 This vehicle appeared to be suspicious to me, 511 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,200 and I decided to check it out. 512 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,200 And upon checking the hood, I found that the car was still warm. 513 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,200 On the back seat was a pile of brightly-wrapped Christmas gifts. 514 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200 On the front seat, a blue sports bag, 515 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200 a pair of women's gloves, and a purse. 516 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 With the instinct born of 15 years' experience, 517 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Officer Baird quickly concluded that someone was in dire trouble 518 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,200 I felt that there was possibly a rape going on, 519 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,200 or that a female had been raped. 520 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:49,200 I then called for cover 521 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,200 and made my entrance into the field on the north side of the road. 522 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,200 I very slowly and costly made my way to the hospital 523 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,200 I very slowly and costly made my way 524 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,200 towards a tree line that was to the northeast. 525 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:19,200 I observed a small boy that appeared to be crumpled to the ground 526 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,200 and lying next to him was a white female that was covered with a blanket. 527 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,200 I touched him and his body was still warm. 528 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:35,200 I felt at that time that whoever did this was possibly still in the area. 529 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:45,200 And I could not believe that someone had shot this little boy that's close to Christmas. 530 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,200 The same day, the victims were identified as 30-year-old Roxanne Gives 531 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,200 at her 5-year-old son, Christopher. 532 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,200 More than 12 years have passed since the brutal double murder, 533 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,200 but it still grips the investigating officers as though it happened yesterday. 534 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,200 For them, the case is far from over. 535 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,200 They hope that tonight one of our viewers will provide the critical information 536 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200 necessary to solve this troubling mystery. 537 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,200 Roxanne Gives had moved to Dallas after a divorce. 538 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,200 She worked for an insurance company and enjoyed country western dancing. 539 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,200 Roxanne was engaged to be remarried in June of 1982. 540 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,200 Friends describe Roxanne's son, Christopher, as happy and outgoing. 541 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,200 He had turned 5 years old on Wednesday, December 23, 1981. 542 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,200 The very day he was murdered. 543 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,200 That morning, Roxanne and Christopher planned to embark on a special Christmas trip 544 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,200 to visit relatives in Kansas. 545 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,200 Concerned that her car might break down on the long journey, 546 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Roxanne told neighbors she planned to take along her toolbox. 547 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,200 About one hour before the murders, a man authorities believed was the killer 548 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,200 was seen by a neighbor outside Roxanne's apartment complex. 549 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,200 It was a first of many eyewitness reports that enabled investigators 550 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,200 to piece together this appalling crime. 551 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,200 We located a neighbor of Roxanne's who left by the time that Christopher 552 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,200 came out the door with the red toolbox. 553 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200 Matter of fact, she spoke to Christopher. 554 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,200 In the process of going to her car, she saw the man carrying the toolbox 555 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,200 in one hand and Christopher by the hand as they went around the corner 556 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,200 where she believed Roxanne's car was parked. 557 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200 She said they looked rough, they looked nervous. 558 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:07,200 She described them as not fitting in the complex. 559 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,200 30 minutes later, at about 11 a.m., the suspect was seen again. 560 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,200 This time he was with Roxanne and Christopher in their car. 561 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,200 The man's female companion was no longer with him. 562 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,200 He was acting kind of nervous. 563 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,200 He had his hands down between his legs. 564 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200 He never looked up at me. 565 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200 He never said anything. 566 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200 He just stared at the pool board. 567 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,200 You could tell that she was nervous and when I looked at her, 568 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,200 she looked me right in the eyes and you could tell then she was nervous 569 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,200 that something was wrong. 570 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,200 Her little boy was in the back seat and I thought, 571 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,200 well, he acts like everything's all right. 572 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,200 Very much. 573 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,200 I told one of my fellow employees, I said, 574 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,200 it's going to be something if something happens to that woman 575 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,200 because she acted awful straight. 576 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Sometime during the next half hour, Roxanne and Christopher were murdered. 577 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,200 I'm afraid that she saw her son killed 578 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,200 and then she and the killer had quite a struggle 579 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,200 before she was initially shot twice herself. 580 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,200 The bodies were still warm when Officer Baird found them at 11.45. 581 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,200 He immediately called backup units to the scene. 582 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,200 At the very moment support officers were arriving, 583 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,200 the suspect was seen fleeing the area. 584 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,200 A total of eight eyewitnesses saw the alleged killer 585 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200 either running or hitchhiking away from the scene. 586 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,200 Meanwhile, less than a mile away, investigators were gathering evidence 587 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,200 that may someday convict him. 588 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,200 In making his quick getaway, the suspect had inadvertently left behind 589 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,200 a blue sports pack, literally a bag of clues. 590 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,200 A pre-World War II holster, possibly a collector's item. 591 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,200 A set of burglary tools. 592 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,200 A toboggan hat and finally a bottle of formaldehyde. 593 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,200 It would be the first hint that the case was linked in some way to drugs. 594 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,200 It was popular among heavy drug users then to lace a marijuana cigarette 595 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200 with formaldehyde. 596 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200 Locally here they called it a Sherman stick. 597 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,200 Investigators were still at the murder scene 598 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,200 when the suspect burst into a gas station just five miles away 599 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200 demanding to use the phone. 600 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,200 Got a payphone right out there on the corner, sir. 601 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Right there where that little sign is. 602 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,200 There's a phone right there. Let me use that phone right there. 603 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,200 I'm sorry, that's a busy phone. Can't let you... 604 00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,200 Come on, lady. 605 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200 I can't let you use that phone, sir. 606 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,200 If you want to make a call, you can use that payphone right out there on the corner. 607 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,200 It's right out there, sir. 608 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,200 He was there at the gas station for 15 to 20 minutes. 609 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200 She said that he used the telephone. 610 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,200 The last time she saw him, he wandered off towards Interstate 635. 611 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,200 A suspect was seen one final time. 612 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,200 This sighting led authorities to believe that he may have had an accomplice. 613 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,200 I've seen this man run down the hill from the service station 614 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,200 and I thought he might have been a... 615 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,200 He was a suspect. 616 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,200 He was running down the hill from the service station 617 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:56,200 and I thought he might have been a robbery because there was a car 618 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,200 on the side of the road slowing down and stopping to pick him up. 619 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:09,200 Roy Morris described the getaway car as a green 1955 Buick. 620 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,200 The driver was a heavy set black male. 621 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,200 In the wake of the murder, anonymous tips flooded police hotlines. 622 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,200 Several callers made the same suggestion. 623 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,200 Talked to Roxanne's brother, Army Private Kurt Gives. 624 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,200 Investigators learned that before joining the service in August of 1981, 625 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,200 Kurt had stayed with Roxanne and Christopher in their Dallas apartment. 626 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,200 I think so. I'm going to try real hard. 627 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200 All right, I'll get you. 628 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,200 When Kurt moved out to go to the Army, 629 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,200 people have told us that Roxanne was relieved. 630 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,200 Bye. 631 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,200 We know that he was dealing in marijuana 632 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,200 and at some point in time he had a disagreement with these folks 633 00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,200 over some of their transactions with regard to this marijuana. 634 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,200 According to Roxanne's friends, late one night, 635 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,200 a man showed up unexpectedly at her apartment. 636 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,200 Kurt's not here. 637 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,200 What do you mean he's not here? 638 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200 Police believe that when Kurt left to join the Army, 639 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,200 his former associates were still angry. 640 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,200 Roxanne may have found herself trapped 641 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,200 in the middle of a bitter drug-related dispute. 642 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,200 Kurt owed me some money and I'm going to find him 643 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,200 and I will find him. 644 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,200 Two years later in 1984, 645 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,200 Kurt Gives was himself murdered during an attempted drug-buy. 646 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,200 He had always angrily insisted that he had no information 647 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,200 that might shed light on the deaths of his sister and nephew. 648 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,200 This case occurred at Christmas time 649 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,200 and I'm sure that myself and all the other detectives 650 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,200 will never forget what we saw out there that day. 651 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:02,200 Whomever committed that offense doesn't need to be free in our society 652 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,200 and I don't intend to ever give up trying to find that person. 653 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:42,200 On our next Unsolved Mysteries, 654 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,200 two stories of death defined by overpowering love. 655 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,200 In one, a mother's pain over the loss of her child was eased 656 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,200 when she was contacted by what she believes was a spirit of her daughter 657 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,200 and a woman raising two young sons after the death of her husband 658 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,200 says she found solace when he appeared to her. 659 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,200 Some say these after-death visits are pure hallucination. 660 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,200 Others claim they are all too real. 661 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,200 Also a case of utmost urgency, 662 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,200 a serial killer is stalking and murdering young women in the Midwest. 663 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,200 Perhaps you can help catch the I-70 killer. 664 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,200 Join me next time. 665 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,200 Perhaps you may be able to help solve a mystery. 666 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,200 I'm not sure if you can help me. 667 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 668 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 669 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 670 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 671 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 672 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 673 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 674 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,200 I'm just a little bit worried. 675 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,200 I'm just a little bit worried.